Homemade weed killers are all the rage and vinegar or salt or a combination of the two are highly publicized. How well do they work? How do they compare with Roundup? In today’s post I will compare the three options by testing them on real weeds in my garden.

Vinegar, Homemade Weed Killer
I’ve discussed vinegar before in Vinegar Weed Killer Myth. It is effective against small weed seedlings, and it does destroy the green leaves above ground. It has very little effect on roots.
In this post vinegar refers to the stuff you can buy in a grocery store. It does not include 20% acetic acid which is a dangerous chemical that does kill some weeds.
Salt, Homemade Weed Killer
Salt, usually in the form of sodium chloride, the table salt, is recommended quite a bit for killing weeds. It can be used in water, as a solid or even mixed with vinegar.
Salt does kill weeds, as well as all other plants. Sodium is a toxic metal ion which dissolves easily in water. It moves through soil along with the water. If the amount of sodium is high enough it kills plants, so it should be no surprise that it kills weeds.
Unlike synthetic or organic pesticides which break down over time, the sodium ion does not break down. It might be washed away by water to another location, like the soil where you grow favorite plants, or into local rivers and lakes, but it will always be somewhere.
Someone on a social network group said they kill weeds by applying salt, and nothing grows in the spot for at least 2 years. Great – the weeds are gone because the soil has been contaminated so much nothing will grow there until water leeches the excess sodium away. That does not sound like good gardening to me.
Roundup Weed Killer
The active ingredient in Roundup is a chemical called glyphosate. Contrary to popular belief, this is a safe chemical (ref 1) and it works very well on most plants.
Glyphosate is absorbed by the leaves of growing plants and is transported to the roots. There, it slowly kills the roots and in turn the whole plant dies. This process is fairly slow, and usually takes 10 – 14 days for the plant to die.
Roundup vs Vinegar vs Salt
The above descriptions are basic facts about the three weed killers. I wanted to see them in action and be able to compare them to see how effective they really are.
I know Roundup works since I have used it in the past on a few very stubborn weeds including quack grass and bindweed. I have never used vinegar or salt.
In early spring, I dug out some good sized dandelions and potted them up. I took good care of them for a couple of months to make sure they were growing well. The picture below shows the three plants just before being sprayed with a weed killer.

Each pot was sprayed once with one of these: Roundup, pickling vinegar (7% acetic acid), and salt (1/4 cup sodium chloride per liter water).
After treatment, all three pots were added to my nursery of potted seedlings, which are watered every day unless it rains. They received sun most of the day, with a bit of shade late in the day.
Two weeks after spraying.

From experience, I know Roundup takes about 10 days to start showing results. Plants are usually dead at the 2 week mark. It looks like salt also did a good job and that was not unexpected. Salt, at high levels, is toxic to most plants. Vinegar had browned off the leaves a bit after spraying, but new ones soon grew back. The vinegar treated plant is smaller than before spraying, but is growing fine.
Eight Weeks After spraying

Does Salt Kill Weeds?
You can see from the above picture that the salt sprayed on the plant was not enough to kill it. Things might have been different if the plant had been in the ground. Salt is very soluble in water, and more watering means that it is washed away quicker. The plant would not have been watered as much if it was in the ground and so the salt might have stuck around longer, in turn killing the plant. But that is just a guess.
The salt treated plant is not nearly as large as the vinegar treated plant. So salt certainly affected the dandelion more than the vinegar spray.
Salt may be better at getting rid of weeds, but it is just not a good idea for treating weeds in the garden. Adding salt to your garden is not good for your plants or the environment.

Does Vinegar Kill Weeds?
The pickling vinegar did do some initial damage to the leaves, but it clearly did not kill the plant. This is consistent with scientific reports that say vinegar at 5% or 7% have very little effect on weeds that have well established root systems. See Vinegar Weed Killer Myth for more details.
Vinegar will not kill most weeds in the garden. 20% Acetic Acid does kill some weeds, but is not effective on all types.
In my next post I test vinegar’s ability to kill other types of weeds Vinegar Weed Killer Myth Revisited.
Will Vinegar + Salt Kill Weeds?
Some recipes recommend a mixture of both vinegar and salt. This is probably more effective than just vinegar alone, but again salt is just no good for the garden. I would not use it.
Many of you will have trouble believing me when I say Roundup is less damaging to the environment than salt. Roundup degrades fairly quickly as bacteria and is converted to water and CO2. Salt stays in the environment for ever.
references:
1) Glyphosate technical Fact Sheet: http://npic.orst.edu/factsheets/glyphotech.html
2) All photos by Robert Pavlis





Salt water drench was the only thing that has actually managed to finally kill my out of control gout weed. Years of trying just about everything including Roundup left the plants stronger than ever. Covering the area with a tough garden cloth and wood chips followed by salt brine where the mulch could not reach finally did it in. Am still in a state of disbelief.
Well first of all… no you can not use round up around where animals like our horses are walking around and grazing. Though I still keep them away while I use a more natural method I do NOT ever use things like roundup close to my horses/barn. But I use it away and where I know water will not flow in that direction. Everyone has an opinion. But I will take safety and natural around my horses and the people that board horses here over roundup…
The mamalian LD50s of salt and vinegar are both lower (more toxic) than glyphosate
Interesting. I have been trying out the “new advanced” Roundup which seems to have Acetic acid as its main ingredient. I find it is very effective on my driveway which has a lot of growth coming up. They say it works best on hot days when the plant is already stressed. This Roundup shrivels the top of the plant above the ground (tidy) whereas the old Roundup left a clump of brown vegetation sticking out that was hard to remove
But it does not kill roots of larger weeds.
Mr. Pavlis,
Excellent article and discussion. I tend to agree with you, I believe the preponderance of “current” scientific data points to a low overall toxicity for glyphosate, but once fear takes hold a rational discussion becomes difficult.
As this seems to be a big issue for many gardeners I thought I would share information on a product I recently tried out around my farm buildings. It’s a herbicide made by a company called EcoMight named W.O.W. – “whack out weeds”. It uses only EPA “Minimum Risk Exempt” Active ingredients such as peppermint oil, potassium sorbate and sodium chloride with a soap base.
I purchased it after I saw an article about how deadly it was on poison ivy and on weeds that had become resistant to glyphosate, such as ragweed. It’s not cheap and it must be ordered in bulk concentrate but it certainly does work, and just as well if not better than glyphosate, with a very non-toxic safety profile.
The only concern I might have as a general replacement for Roundup would be the small amount of salt (3.5%) in the ingredients list, but the concentrate is diluted with a 6 to 8 ounce per gallon mix rate, so I’m thinking there’s not a lot of sodium chloride to worry about building up in the soil.
Check out Dr. Zack Bush and Stephanie Seneff at MIT, to name a few of the people with real facts on glyphosate. The EPAโs rulings of its safety should not be taken to heart as they are skewed by the industry and Monsanto. Glyphosate was first patented as an antibiotic, which means it kills the biome in your gut as well. And causes cancer- just look at the 25,000 pending court cases on this. I have an Masterโs degree in regenerative and sustainable agriculture and studied this extensively.
Also, you donโt use pickling vinegar when killing weeds- that is only 7%. You want 20-30% vinegar, combined with orange oil and possibly salt. Please make sure you know the correct things to use before doing an unscientific study.
Stephanie Seneff is a crack pot that does not believe in science – only in getting headlines. She has become the laughing stock of the scientific community.
Probably not, but pretty big demonstration plot globally. We will see. The utility of roundup is hardly in dispute, only the safety of it’s use
Saw large rabbit eating a salad of dandelion leaves in my driveway. Forgot about rabbit. Used Roundup. Next day the large rabbit was dead in my driveway. Felt terrible!
It wasn’t from eating Roundup.
Sorry, you can’t assert that.
What a ridiculous conclusion. Based upon what, pray tell? Your answer is not scientific by any means. Neither is concluding that it was Roundup, but my goodness, how can you assert that it was not? There is no data.
What conclusion are you talking about??
Wow. I am not a scientist, I was just a science teacher for 20 years. I would like to see research on how to effectively and permanently kill vines of all types. Weeds, we just knock them down and cover the ground with plastic sheeting and they are gone. But the vines, what in the world kills them? As far as the poor rabbit goes, that is tragic. I would not be at all surprised to find that it was the Roundup that killed it. The number of cancer deaths is mounting. It is outlawed in many countries. But Monsato is very powerful.
Roundup kills vines.
Glyphosate does not cause cancer. https://www.gardenmyths.com/truth-roundup-glyphosate/
Hi! I am doing a practical based on enzyme inhibition where I will test different glyphosate concentrations on plants. I was hoping maybe you knew what plants would be good to sample and any information on just how glyphosate or roundup works?? Also what concentration of glyphosate is most used:)
Thankyou:)
Monsanto created glysophate resistant crops so that they survive the heavy spraying, and the seeds are restricted, and then the genetically modified product contaminated other crops. monsanto then tries to sue the other farmer for using product he didnt pay for and didnt want. Then there is the spray drift which affects the nearby farmer who is trying to grow organic produce : that is predatory behaviour and is enough for any moral person to refuse to use anything they make. And it is well documented that bee numbers in the US are declining, as a direct result of pesticides. Mr Pavlis, YOU prove it isn’t glysophate.
Spend some time and get the facts about Roundup: https://www.gardenmyths.com/truth-roundup-glyphosate/
Pat, Monsanto has never sued a farmer for inadvertent contamination. Varroa mites are the main reason for bee decline. The last time I looked it up bees were actually increasing.
For killing weeds growing up between our pavers we use boiling water. It’s pretty effective though treating large areas will of course mean the kettle get’s boiled quite a few times. Still, it works.
Prove it to me. Shoe me some evidence that the weeds do not grow back from roots.
wasting all that energy to heat the water is probably much worse for the environment than using glyphosate (Roundup)
Enjoyed reading your article.
I have a question about rock salt.
We grew up on farms and made lots of homemade ice cream. We were informed that one should dump the strong salt brine on your asparagus beds, itโs good for the plants. So, inspite of reason, history and science I have poured the brine and undissolved rock salt on my beds. The asparagus and the weeds thrive. I plant other vegetables within 3 feet of the beds and it all grows.
What is going on here?
Asparagus is quite tolerant of salt, and it used to be used to keep weeds down. Depending on the soil it can damage the soil.
If weeds are still growing well, then the salt is probably washing away so that it does not reach toxic levels.
It is not a good idea to add salt to soil.
https://www.canr.msu.edu/resources/growing_asparagus_at_home