Homemade weed killers are all the rage and vinegar or salt or a combination of the two are highly publicized. How well do they work? How do they compare with Roundup? In today’s post I will compare the three options by testing them on real weeds in my garden.

Vinegar, Homemade Weed Killer
I’ve discussed vinegar before in Vinegar Weed Killer Myth. It is effective against small weed seedlings, and it does destroy the green leaves above ground. It has very little effect on roots.
In this post vinegar refers to the stuff you can buy in a grocery store. It does not include 20% acetic acid which is a dangerous chemical that does kill some weeds.
Salt, Homemade Weed Killer
Salt, usually in the form of sodium chloride, the table salt, is recommended quite a bit for killing weeds. It can be used in water, as a solid or even mixed with vinegar.
Salt does kill weeds, as well as all other plants. Sodium is a toxic metal ion which dissolves easily in water. It moves through soil along with the water. If the amount of sodium is high enough it kills plants, so it should be no surprise that it kills weeds.
Unlike synthetic or organic pesticides which break down over time, the sodium ion does not break down. It might be washed away by water to another location, like the soil where you grow favorite plants, or into local rivers and lakes, but it will always be somewhere.
Someone on a social network group said they kill weeds by applying salt, and nothing grows in the spot for at least 2 years. Great – the weeds are gone because the soil has been contaminated so much nothing will grow there until water leeches the excess sodium away. That does not sound like good gardening to me.
Roundup Weed Killer
The active ingredient in Roundup is a chemical called glyphosate. Contrary to popular belief, this is a safe chemical (ref 1) and it works very well on most plants.
Glyphosate is absorbed by the leaves of growing plants and is transported to the roots. There, it slowly kills the roots and in turn the whole plant dies. This process is fairly slow, and usually takes 10 – 14 days for the plant to die.
Roundup vs Vinegar vs Salt
The above descriptions are basic facts about the three weed killers. I wanted to see them in action and be able to compare them to see how effective they really are.
I know Roundup works since I have used it in the past on a few very stubborn weeds including quack grass and bindweed. I have never used vinegar or salt.
In early spring, I dug out some good sized dandelions and potted them up. I took good care of them for a couple of months to make sure they were growing well. The picture below shows the three plants just before being sprayed with a weed killer.

Each pot was sprayed once with one of these: Roundup, pickling vinegar (7% acetic acid), and salt (1/4 cup sodium chloride per liter water).
After treatment, all three pots were added to my nursery of potted seedlings, which are watered every day unless it rains. They received sun most of the day, with a bit of shade late in the day.
Two weeks after spraying.

From experience, I know Roundup takes about 10 days to start showing results. Plants are usually dead at the 2 week mark. It looks like salt also did a good job and that was not unexpected. Salt, at high levels, is toxic to most plants. Vinegar had browned off the leaves a bit after spraying, but new ones soon grew back. The vinegar treated plant is smaller than before spraying, but is growing fine.
Eight Weeks After spraying

Does Salt Kill Weeds?
You can see from the above picture that the salt sprayed on the plant was not enough to kill it. Things might have been different if the plant had been in the ground. Salt is very soluble in water, and more watering means that it is washed away quicker. The plant would not have been watered as much if it was in the ground and so the salt might have stuck around longer, in turn killing the plant. But that is just a guess.
The salt treated plant is not nearly as large as the vinegar treated plant. So salt certainly affected the dandelion more than the vinegar spray.
Salt may be better at getting rid of weeds, but it is just not a good idea for treating weeds in the garden. Adding salt to your garden is not good for your plants or the environment.

Does Vinegar Kill Weeds?
The pickling vinegar did do some initial damage to the leaves, but it clearly did not kill the plant. This is consistent with scientific reports that say vinegar at 5% or 7% have very little effect on weeds that have well established root systems. See Vinegar Weed Killer Myth for more details.
Vinegar will not kill most weeds in the garden. 20% Acetic Acid does kill some weeds, but is not effective on all types.
In my next post I test vinegar’s ability to kill other types of weeds Vinegar Weed Killer Myth Revisited.
Will Vinegar + Salt Kill Weeds?
Some recipes recommend a mixture of both vinegar and salt. This is probably more effective than just vinegar alone, but again salt is just no good for the garden. I would not use it.
Many of you will have trouble believing me when I say Roundup is less damaging to the environment than salt. Roundup degrades fairly quickly as bacteria and is converted to water and CO2. Salt stays in the environment for ever.
references:
1) Glyphosate technical Fact Sheet: http://npic.orst.edu/factsheets/glyphotech.html
2) All photos by Robert Pavlis





Good article! I’m wondering if u know the answer to a question.i have a toddler who eats everything, including weeds, all the time (we try and control him!). We have weeds in the pavers and from garden that need poisoning. Trying to keep him out of the yard to 2-3 weeks would be hard. I had thought about using hot water + vinegar in the short term until he grow out of it. Any other suggestions??
Use cold water and vinegar every week or so. It won’t kill the weed, but it does keep it from getting big.
When it comes to a patch of poor quality chalk land covered with a few inches of willow leaf mould, which seems to be a perfect ground for stinging nettles 3ft-5 ft (c.1m) height and a lot of thistles up to 2m high, repetitive applications of glyphosate 360mg/l twice a year to newly formed leaves (after mechanised trimming) has been unsuccessful except under the trees, where lower light levels may have been a factor. It seemed likely that sodium chlorate powdered crystals might be more successful, and may have been but only for half a year. Root-pulling of sections – back-breaking – with various rakes and sowing grass seeds was unsuccesful because it didn’t stop the nettle roots spreading while away and those thistles! It only takes one survivor to blow seeds! Conclusion is 10cm (6″) of concrete could be the longer term answer; but maybe not the final one.
Thank you for the simple, straightforward demonstration and comparison of these weed treatments.
And thanks for the rational discussion of glyphosate. So many people simply abandon their ability to evaluate differing situations and relevant factors, and the credibility of sources. Words like “Monsanto” or “natural” take on super-meanings that cannot be overcome. I’ve tried, on this same topic as it happens, but not with your hands-on authority. Had I known of this web page I could have steered my friend here. Though… they still wouldn’t have listened.
“Don’t confuse me with the facts! My mind is made up!”
I hope you can keep up the good work.
It is always worth trying to convert some people, but many are not ready for the truth.
a lot of old posts here. I am investigating inexpensive and home-made weed killers. It seems there are a lot of things to consider.
Salt vs Epsom salt. One comment mentioned what the Romans did. This also works BUT as was pointed out… NaCl stays around a long time. Epsom salt breaks down into something more useful to plants after a while. This sounds very much more environmentally agreeable to me.
You didn’t use soap of any sort. The soap helps break surface tension, allowing easier absorption by the plant. I think there are other things the soap does, but I’m not that much of an expert.
I don’t really mind doing something like spraying weeds a few times a year. I DO mind killing somebody else’s land by putting something in mine that will “leach” into theirs.
I can see… there is some more investigating and experimentation in store.
Thank you for your help.
Wow, the responses to your excellent article are eye-opening. It strikes me, as one who has a chemistry background and also an advanced degree in theology that what is often at work in people’s minds is not logic and an appreciation for true science, but religious conviction that is not always rooted in reality. I suppose you knew before posting your article that you would encounter a great deal of opposition and even hostility, so I applaud your courage and commitment.
The State of California just declared that glyphosate causes cancer.
That is correct – but the government California is hardly a reliable source of information.
Did you know that computer cables in California are also cancer causing and need to be labeled as such? https://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancer-causes/general-info/cancer-warning-labels-based-on-californias-proposition-65.html
Disneyland, and soda pop, in California are also cancer causing – they have a stupid law – read this: https://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2014/02/20/thanks-to-a-poorly-designed-law-california-classifies-soft-drinks-as-a-cancer-risk/#4405d15db8c1
Here is a list of some of the agencies that disagree with the California decision, they all agree glyphosate is not cancer causing:
Canadian Pest Management Regulatory Agency, (April 13, 2015)
– EPAโs Cancer Assessment Review Committee (October 1, 2015)
– European Food Safety Authority (November 12, 2015)
– United Nations/World Health Organization (May 9-13, 2016)
– German Federal Institute for Occupational Safety and Health to the European Chemicals Agency, (May 2016)
– New Zealand Environmental Protection Authority, (August 2016)
– European Chemical Agency (ECHA), (March 2017)
What about pets? I have dogs and a yard full of weeds. The dogs will be away from the house (we’re traveling for three weeks) so I was thinking of spraying Roundup before leaving. Will the ground/yard be safe after three weeks? I don’t them to accidentally get poisoned.
Gyphosate – the active ingredient in Roundup is a very non-toxic chemical even for dogs.
Just to catch you up on the latest news about glysphosate: Effective as of July 7, 2017 it is listed as a a known carcinogen.
By who? I know of no such listing.
google it it’s all over the place, here’s just a couple:. http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-roundup-cancer-20170626-story.html https://oehha.ca.gov/proposition-65/crnr/glyphosate-listed-effective-july-7-2017-known-state-california-cause-cancer#_ftnref3
I’ve replied about the California decision in another post. Their decision does not mean it causes cancer.
“The court documents included Monsantoโs internal emails and email traffic between the company and federal regulators. The records suggested that Monsanto had ghostwritten research that was later attributed to academics and indicated that a senior official at the Environmental Protection Agency had worked to quash a review of Roundupโs main ingredient, glyphosate, that was to have been conducted by the United States Department of Health and Human Services.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/14/business/monsanto-roundup-safety-lawsuit.html?_r=0
How does that change the fact that hundreds of studies all show the chemical is safe?
Your statement that roundup degrades after a short time is incorrect. Traces of roundup is being found in the drinking water here in Denmark. Our drinking water is pumped up from water wells 50 feet deap. How does the roundup travel so deep in the ground if it degrades shortly after??
Finding traces does not mean it does not degrade in a short period of time and I believe the reference was to glyphosate in soil, not water.
Its half life is in the order of a couple of months – that is considered degradation in a short period of time. This value is well established.
I guess people these days are not aware of classical history, what the Romans did when the conquered Carthage. To destroy the civilization they plowed the fields with salt. No crops for many years.
Good post. I have been able to kill poison ivy with repeated spraying of chlorox directly on the leaves without harming the nearby plants.